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In this DSEI 2025 preview episode of AI in Action, host Andy Fawkes explores the future of artificial intelligence in defence training and simulation with Air Vice-Marshal (Ret'd) Gary Waterfall, Lucy Walton of BAE Systems' Falcon Works, and Toby Everitt, CEO of Metaverse VR.
Throughout their discussion, collaboration emerged consistently as the cornerstone of defence innovation. Whether connecting primes with SMEs, bridging industry and academia, or fostering international partnerships, success depends on shared expertise and open dialogue.
Lucy Walton describes how BAE Systems actively scans global markets to identify common challenges, then seeks out agile SMEs with the capability to address them. Events like DSEI serve a crucial dual purpose, she explains: showcasing cutting-edge technology while creating the relationships that transform ideas into practical solutions. The emphasis is on genuine partnership rather than traditional procurement models.
For SMEs, the path to defence innovation often requires creative collaboration. Toby Everitt acknowledges that smaller companies frequently face significant barriers when introducing AI products to the sector. Without the resources of larger primes or direct government funding, they depend on strategic partnerships and pilot projects to demonstrate their value. He shares a striking example of AI vulnerability, where a simple QR code on a stop sign corrupted Tesla's autopilot system—illustrating how even sophisticated algorithms can be compromised by unexpected inputs.
Gary Waterfall extends this theme of trust and transparency, drawing an intriguing parallel with consumer behaviour. While people readily use price comparison websites to find the best car insurance deal, they remain cautious about applying similar data-driven approaches to defence learning and decision-making. He advocates for greater experimentation, likening AI adoption to downloading a new mobile app: its value only becomes clear once it’s in use.
Find Out More About DSEI 2025The panel also explores workforce development, the potential for AI to personalise training, and the importance of building confidence in autonomous systems long before they reach operational environments. With over 650 first-time exhibitors expected at DSEI—many of them innovative SMEs—the exhibition promises to be a dynamic forum for these essential conversations.
The discussion reinforces a key message: defence innovation thrives when organisations move beyond traditional silos. The future belongs to those prepared to share knowledge, forge unexpected partnerships, and embrace bold new approaches to solving complex challenges.