The Warfighter Podcast achieved another first; working with NATO Modelling and Simulation Working Group to cover their latest initiative - the MSaaS Jam, hosted at the Tech Grove, Orlando, Florida. For those that don’t know this is the spiritual home for Modelling & Simulation across the US DoD.

Over a weekend in June, teams were invited to a ‘hackathon’ style event, fed pizzas and Mountain Dew, and asked to develop a novel simulation service that is scalable, agile, and suitable for training or experimentation.

Teams could take part in person, or remotely as either a participant, SME or observer with the chance for teams to win $5,000. The top three teams were invited to present their solutions to the NATO MSaaS Working Group, as well as be featured at I/ITSEC 2023.

This interview was recorded in two parts, featuring Robert Seigfried (Co-Chair NATO Distributed Simulation Training), Chris McGroarty from U.S. Army Combat Capabilities Development Command - Soldier Center and the winning team (AKA The Topography Troopers) from and Applied Research Associates, Inc. Jordan Dauble from SimBlocks joins us in the second half to talk about the experience, and what it took to make the winning solution.

A fascinating initiative from NATO NMSG that sought to break down some of the innovation barriers and introduce new approaches and thinking to distributed simulation. We look forward to covering this event in the future!


Military Simulation & Training (MS&T) magazine has proudly signed up to be the exclusive media partner of The Warfighter Podcast, a brand new simulation and training series that provides insight into the future being built by militaries and government agencies around the world.

The show is co-hosted by Tom Constable, a former British Army Officer turned technology entrepreneur, and ex British Royal Navy officer Colin Hiller.

MS&T special correspondent Andy Fawkes is also a regular guest, providing a digest of the recent modelling & simulation news, with some discussion around the more interesting trends.